How to Get Your Practice Ready for a VA or Marketing Team
Outsourcing your marketing can save you time and mental energy—but only if you’re prepared. In this episode, Samantha sits down with Deanna Martin, marketing strategist and founder of Patrona Virtual Solutions, to talk about how to set your practice up for outsourcing success. From deciding who to hire (VA, social media manager, or strategist) to setting clear expectations and boundaries, Deanna shares the systems, mindset, and communication tips that make outsourcing easier and more effective—so your marketing actually gets done and feels like you.
Key Takeaways
Preparation matters. Create simple SOPs and workflows before outsourcing so your team can reflect your brand voice and systems.
Know who you need. A VA executes tasks, a social media manager creates content, and a strategist oversees the overall marketing plan.
Set clear expectations. Communicate goals, response times, and feedback loops from the start to avoid frustration.
Onboarding takes time. Plan for the first month to be setup and alignment—results build gradually over the next few months.
Delegation is a partnership. You’re still part of the process; collaboration helps your marketing stay authentic and consistent.
Quick win: Make a list of weekly and monthly tasks you’d love to hand off—it’s the first step toward clarity and confidence when hiring help.
Deanna Martin
Deanna Martin is a marketing strategist and the founder of Patrona Virtual Solutions, where she helps health and wellness providers finally stop spinning their wheels and start showing up with strategy. After 14 years as a biology and anatomy teacher, she traded in her lesson plans for marketing plans—and now she helps practitioners get organized, clarify their audience, and set their business up for outsourcing success.
Whether it’s social media, email marketing, or podcast pitching, Deanna is all about turning post-it note ideas into streamlined strategies that actually get implemented. She’s also a busy mom of three, so she knows how to juggle all the things without burning out—and she brings that same energy to helping her clients grow in a sustainable way.
Transcript
[00:00:00] Samantha: I am Samantha Mabe, website designer and founder of Lemon and the Sea, and this is Elevate Your Practice. If you're a holistic health practitioner ready to grow your practice without wasting time on things that don't work, you're in the right place. Each week I share a website, SEO, and marketing advice along with guest experts so you can bring in the right clients and feel confident about how you are showing up and serving the people that you help. Let's get started.
[00:00:38] Today I'm talking with Deanna Martin about outsourcing your marketing for your health practice, and I'm so excited about this conversation. Deanna and I have known each other on Instagram for quite a while, and so we got to connect and talk through strategies and tips that will help you to prepare to outsource your marketing, whether you're planning on doing that in be the beginning of 2026 or further down the road.
[00:01:07] Deanna is a marketing strategist and the founder of Patrona Virtual Solutions, where she helps health and wellness providers finally stop spinning their wheels and start showing up with strategy. After 14 years as a biology and anatomy teacher, she traded her lesson plans for marketing plans, and now she helps practitioners get organized, clarify their audience, and set their business up for outsourcing success. Whether it's social media, email marketing, or podcast pitching, Deanna is all about turning post-it note ideas. Into streamline strategies that actually get implemented. She's also a busy mom of three, so she knows how to juggle all the things without burning out, and she brings that same energy to helping her clients grow in a sustainable way.
Meet Deanna Martin: From Teaching to Marketing Strategy
[00:01:47] Hi, Deanna. Thank you for joining me.
[00:01:50] Deanna Martin: Thank you so much. I'm so excited.
[00:01:53] Samantha: I shared your official bio, but can you tell us a little bit more about what you do and how you got to that point?
[00:02:00] Deanna Martin: Yeah, so I am a health and wellness marketing strategist. Long story is that I intended on being a pediatric physical therapist. I poured years into volunteering and of course school and internships and all the things. And I didn't get in. I didn't know what to do. My mother-in-law was a principal and she said, 'why don't you go into special education, do teaching. They're still kids. They still need support.' And I'm like, 'oh my gosh, teach in high school? No way. You know what? I'm gonna do it one year, get some money and reapply.' And I stayed there for 14 years. I actually love teaching. And so I went from special education into biology, human anatomy, AP biology. I really love doing that.
[00:02:46] I left teaching after 14 years and I really missed the science and education part of it. So I started doing some research of what I could do. I found the world of virtual assisting, so I started doing that and supporting online business owners. Again, I still missed the health wellness aspect of it. So I started reaching out to providers that I knew had an online presence, and I started working with them and found that they needed a ton of help in marketing.
[00:03:16] And when I took a step back and I realized, 'okay, how can I take teaching and use that in marketing?' Basically that's what teaching is. I have to find a way to take mitochondria and make it super exciting for high school students and keep their attention and make it interesting. So I was essentially marketing to my students all the time. Once I realized I had a bit of that background, it was really easy for me to merge that into what I do now.
[00:03:41] I started doing a lot of general VA work with providers, of course, that merged into social media management, and now I still do social media, but I do a lot of strategy support with them too.
[00:03:51] Samantha: My husband is a teacher. He teaches AP Math. And teachers are very skilled people. I tried substituting for a few days and it was like, 'this is not for me.' But there are so many skills that you have that then you can bring, and I love that you've incorporated all of the pieces of like, 'I'm gonna help people and I know all of this health and wellness stuff,' which is always really valuable when you are working in that field.
[00:04:16] Deanna Martin: Exactly. It's not just, can I put a couple of facts and make a cute little Canva graphic? It's really getting into what is the provider's ideal client or patients? What are they thinking? What are they feeling? And so I really try to connect and work with providers where it's something that I feel like, 'okay, this is a service that I could see myself using or that I would look into for my kids or my mom,' because then it makes that whole piece so much easier.
[00:04:42] But you're right, it's not just a cute little carousel and a cute little reel together. There really is strategy and understanding what is it that people are trying to connect with. And on top of that, the whole education piece and research, and there's a lot that goes into it.
Why Marketing Support Matters for Wellness Providers
[00:04:57] Samantha: So what made you realize there was such a need for marketing specific support in these health and wellness spaces?
[00:05:03] Deanna Martin: I had providers who were telling me that they were doing great as far as getting referrals, the word of mouth. And of course we know that social media is a huge place where people can start to market and it's amazing 'cause Instagram's free. Why wouldn't you put time into that? And I feel like just the way marketing is moving, there has to be a presence. That's just how it is. Even for myself, when I'm looking for a new restaurant, I go into Instagram and I look up Scottsdale restaurants, or Gilbert restaurants. That's just the way that people are searching for things now. Yes, of course they use Google, but a lot are using Instagram.
[00:05:40] For the providers that I was working with, they were getting decent traction from the word of mouth or from Google, but they also saw that their competitors were using Instagram, so they wanted to start using that. And when I would peek into it, it was a lot of 'happy Thanksgiving,' happy whatever, but it really wasn't showing why are people wanting to come to you? Why should they come to you?
[00:06:05] Because even for me, especially when I'm looking for a provider for my kids, I do wanna see the providers. I wanna hear their voice. I wanna see what the office looks like. And having an Instagram account is so valuable to be able to show people right away what that looks like.
[00:06:19] I saw the intention of how they were using Instagram, but the action and the strategy is what was missing and what I was able to fill that gap with.
[00:06:28] Samantha: I love that. I think websites, which is what I do, we can show some personality, but they're static and they're more professional. On Instagram, especially now, you have the ability to really showcase the people that are working there and what it's like to come there.
[00:06:45] Like you said, as a mom, you wanna know that the space is kid friendly and these people know what they're doing. I think that social media specifically is a really great place to differentiate yourself from other people that they may have found through referrals or through Google., And that's your more casual behind the scenes place to hang out.
[00:07:08] Deanna Martin: Yeah, definitely. And then even for a lot of the providers, when I started working with them, I would of course join their email list and then I would see that maybe I would get an initial email and then months later if I was working with someone, even a year and a half in, I would do a little bit of research like, oh, you've done one every maybe four months. So even that too, I mean that there are a lot of pieces that go into it. It's not just making the post. It's not just, 'okay, I have my website. Clients, patients can start coming to me.' There are a lot of moving pieces that go into that.
[00:07:37] So all of those things I was looking at, I was looking at the email marketing, was that being used? It is important to make sure that we're reaching people on all these different platforms because not everyone's on Instagram, not everyone's on Facebook, not everyone's on TikTok. What's going to make it even more likely that we're going to grow, you're gonna get more patients, more clients, and people will see the information that you're trying to share with them?
Common Mistakes Before Outsourcing
[00:07:59] Samantha: Today we're specifically talking about outsourcing. So I'd love to know some of the mistakes you see people make before they start outsourcing and what you're seeing people do that you or somebody else would be able to help them with?
[00:08:12] Deanna Martin: Yes, so I love talking about this because, especially for myself going from virtual assisting to social media management to now more strategy, I have been through the whole realm of what is it that online business owners, providers will hire.
[00:08:31] And the biggest mistake that I see is that there's not enough preparation on the provider's end to set up your team for success. I have worked with providers where they tell me, 'oh, I've been through, I can't even tell you how many virtual assistants,' or 'I've worked with a ton of social media managers,' and I know for some they're like, 'oh, red flag.' And for me, it's not so much a red flag to me that's a red flag that no one really explained then what the expectation is. No one really came to you and said, 'here's what I'm coming to you with, but here's what I need you to come to me with.'
[00:09:06] So the biggest thing is making sure that you have even a simple Google Doc with just basic SOPs. It doesn't have to be fancy, don't get crazy with it. Just basic: what's your flow when you do like to send emails? Do you have a bank of keywords where you're like, I never use this word? Or, this is my email sign off so that way when you do write my emails, this is typically what my voice is.
[00:09:30] The biggest thing that I see is that providers aren't setting something up so that way when they do want to hand these things off, 'cause I get it, you wanna hand it off, you don't wanna do it. You don't wanna learn one more thing. You don't care about automations or workflows or whatever. But you also have to prepare them so that they can reflect you. 'Cause then what ends up happening? Now, you're sitting there upset, editing everything, giving all this feedback. But whoever you hire, they don't know what they don't know. So making sure that you're setting them up for that.
[00:09:58] Samantha: I think it's important to remember that a VA is not somebody who's gonna come in and be like, 'okay, I'm gonna figure out the voice of your practice.' They're not building all the foundational stuff. You are handing them what they need and they are just executing tasks.
[00:10:13] Deanna Martin: Yes.
[00:10:13] Samantha: I did this recently. I hired somebody to help me with stuff and did not write my SOPs down ahead of time. We had a call and she was like, 'okay, you're gonna have to write all this down.' And I went through and I was like, 'oh wow. I have all this information, I just need to put it in one place.' And then it was so helpful for her, but it's also helpful for me to go back and look at it. You do have to be prepared before you bring someone on.
[00:10:36] Deanna Martin: Yeah. And then you know what? Even if you don't know how yet. I've gotten on a few discovery calls where someone says, 'I know I need your service. Can we talk about what can I do to prepare so that way down the road, I am ready for you?' There's nothing wrong with that. So don't feel like, okay, 'I'm gonna try to put something together. I don't know if this is right.' Maybe talk to someone else in your space who has hired someone and ask them how did they set up their systems? What did they do to prepare for VA, social media manager, strategists? Or get on a call if there is someone where you're like, 'I really would like to work with this person.' Get on a call with them and see what it is that they say that's going to help both of you in the long run.
[00:11:12] And then knowing, I love what you said, that a VA is not a strategist. A social media manager is not a strategist. Those things can have a little bit of intertwining, but they're very different roles. So also understanding what do you need and who do you actually need to hire? Don't just hire the VA because they're $10 an hour, but you also want them to do all this setup and tech. It's not gonna happen.
Do You Need to Hire a VA, Social Media Manager, or Strategist?
[00:11:38] Samantha: Yeah. Can you break down what people should expect those different titles to do and how they would know who they might need to hire?
[00:11:47] Deanna Martin: Yeah, definitely. So a virtual assistant is going to be someone where you have these repetitive tasks, maybe weekly, maybe they're monthly, and everything is essentially done. Let's say that you want them to take over your email marketing in the sense of, 'I have all my emails. I know what I'm gonna write each month. It's in a Google doc, but I need someone to put it into Flodesk' or put it into whatever platform you're using. You should also have a template of what your email looks like when it's done, all pretty and branded and everything like that. So they'll take that content, if you wanna put notes in there for them, add this link. You provide the link for them. They are just doing the basic: here you go. I'm giving you step by step, essentially what to do.
[00:12:30] And if you wanna tie it into social media. Maybe you're making posts, maybe you bought these templates, but they're not on my branding colors. Here's my branding colors. Don't change any of the words. Just make it look like my practice, my business. They could schedule it for you if you already have the platform, you know when things wanna be scheduled. So they're just taking those basic tasks and still freeing up a ton of time for you, but just very basic, this is exactly what you have to do.
[00:12:57] A social media manager is going to come in, and it depends, they can come in and say, okay, 'I will create a strategy for you.' Or a lot of times they'll say, 'what is the strategy you're using now? I will take it. I'll optimize it, really make sure that it reflects what you're doing, what you're offering.' And they will create the content for you.
[00:13:18] But something that I've taught a lot of my clients is that this is also very much a team effort. It can't be, 'I hired someone,' you wash your hands. They still need talking head reels, so they're gonna give you topics, but you still have to make sure you're engaging with them on that. They're going to need photos, they're going to need case studies. I do that with my clients all the time: so every month we have a strategy call and we sit down for an hour, and I'm like, 'all right, give me three clients that you worked with, three patients you worked with. Let's talk about their story. Let's break this down, make content into that.'
[00:13:49] They'll provide the content calendar for you, they'll send it to you to approve, and then they'll go ahead and post it for you. They'll probably do some engagement if you ask them to, I do engagement for mine, maybe they'll pop into stories.
[00:14:00] A strategist is not going to do the actual Canva graphics. They're not going to do the actual editing of the reels or the posting. They're the person where essentially, you no longer wanna be in the middle of having to explain everything to your virtual assistant, to your social media manager. A strategist is going to know what the strategy is and making sure that everything is flowing in that strategy. They're almost like a marketing manager. So having that position is keeping you outta the middle and they will come to you. Your strategist will come to you and say, 'okay, this is how things are looking. Social media is doing this, VA is doing this.'
[00:14:42] It's having a good partnership with a strategist who knows your voice, who knows your goals, and is making sure that your team is working well and that everything is being done on the backend for that.
[00:14:54] Samantha: It's really helpful to break down and know what do you need to hire.
[00:15:00] Yes. I think people make the mistake of thinking, 'I'm gonna hire a VA and they're gonna write my social media content, and they're gonna make the graphics, and they're gonna schedule it, and they're gonna engage.' That's not what their job is. When you want somebody to do that, you're going to be paying more money because they're not just executing tasks.
[00:15:18] Deanna Martin: Absolutely. And if there is something that they do offer, then also just being respectful and saying, okay, if they do offer email marketing, you're not going to get that at the VA price. That's a different service that they're offering for that or maybe it's a one-off.
[00:15:32] It's no different than if a patient comes to you for maybe just a wellness check. But now, if you want a private one-on-one consultation for something that they've been struggling with for months, that's gonna cost a little bit different. Yes, they're still seeing you. This is still your role, you're still their provider, but they're coming to you for a different service.
[00:15:50] So it's no different than a VA social media manager or a strategist.
Timelines and Expectations for Outsourcing
[00:15:53] Samantha: Once they decide I need to outsource some of this, maybe they have an idea of which role they need to hire for, how can they set some realistic expectations as far as finding the right person, the timeline for how long it's going to take? What does that process look like and what should we expect?
[00:16:12] Deanna Martin: For that, whether it's a virtual assistant, social media manager, or strategist, they should tell you that on the call, whether it's during the discovery or with onboarding. It should also be in the contract too. There is a timeline and I always let my providers know that first month is going to be onboarding. It takes a lot of time to make sure that we have everything synced, I know your voice, you're comfortable with my systems, I'm comfortable with your system. And it's not a waste, you need that set up, that's so valuable. So the first month, about four weeks, is just going to be a lot of onboarding. It could be a lot of, especially if it's a social media manager, setting up some templates just to say, okay, do you like this style?
[00:16:52] And then in month two is really when things start to flow. It can depend for a virtual assistant, there should be a training session. We're like, 'okay, I know that I'm taking on X, Y, Z. Let's spend an hour and go through your SOPs. Do that with me.'
[00:17:07] If you don't have time for that, I love when mine send me Looms, or I also send Looms for them too. I did have a client where she wasn't able to do her onboarding, so I did the whole onboarding process, it was like an hour and a half, I sent her the Loom, she watched it whenever she was able to.
[00:17:21] Each role should be giving you an idea of what the timeframe is, and of course it's gonna be different for each one, but you should also ask too. Let them know, 'this is what I'm expecting, is this even realistic?' One of my clients, she's a lifestyle physician and she has zero experience in Instagram social media. We've been working together. She's doing great so far, but two weeks in to posting on Instagram she's, 'I haven't gotten any patients yet.' And I didn't take any offense to it. I just told her, 'oh, totally get it. Let me go ahead and explain. It's going to take maybe about three months to start getting traction because this is essentially a stagnant account that she's starting. It hasn't been touched in almost a year and a half. I'm like, so now we need to focus on growth. People need to know your face. They need to know your practice.' And when I told her that, she's like, 'all right, now I know I had no clue.', And I told her, I'm so glad you told me that 'cause I don't know what you don't know.
[00:18:11] Having communication with whoever your team member is, is massively helpful, right? They can't answer your questions if you're not asking the questions. So letting them know if you do have questions or if you're assuming, okay, I hired the social media manager. How come they're not posting? It's been two weeks. Ask them. Ask them right off the bat. But yeah, just having clarity, having open communications. Let them know what you expect. But they should also be giving you an idea of that too.
[00:18:36] Samantha: That's really helpful and it's a good reminder that none of this is going to be immediate. There is always going to be an onboarding process no matter what kind of project you're starting. And then none of the results you're gonna see are immediate either. They take time to build. I think it's important for people to build that into their plan. So if they're like, 'okay, I really need to push for this specific thing.' You have to work backwards and figure out then when do I need to start in order to find somebody to help me with that?
[00:19:07] Deanna Martin: A social media manager could help you with that, maybe a virtual assistant if they've had experience in launches, but a strategist, that's exactly what we do. I have a ginormous whiteboard, you can't say it right now, but has ginormous plans of when is this launch. So there's something that a client of mine we're launching in January and we started doing pre-launch a couple of weeks ago. So you really have to think about that.
[00:19:30] And if you don't know, that's exactly what a strategist does. Or pick the brain of your social media manager and ask them, 'have you worked in something like this?' You shouldn't expect them to do that 'cause that's not their role, but ask them, just so you get an idea of when those things should start.
[00:19:44] That's the value of having these different team members. Everyone has their niche, their expertise, and they can help you with those goals.
Delegation and Boundaries in Your Business
[00:19:51] Samantha: I wanna get into how you have set up boundaries and delegation in your business and what people can learn from that. Because when we are handing stuff off, that can either be, I don't wanna let it go, or I don't wanna ever think about this again. So how have you done that in your business and what can people learn from the approach that you've taken?
[00:20:11] Deanna Martin: No, I get it. And I tell them all the time, this is your baby. I totally understand. You want some help, but this is also your business. You're proud of it. You want to show up a certain way. I totally respect that.
[00:20:23] So I always tell my clients, the first two months, let's just do bi-weekly check-ins. They do wanna be involved. But for the ones that don't wanna be involved, they also wanna make sure that this isn't just going to go to waste, right? They wanna know what's happening in the background. So we always do biweekly calls for the first two months. And then after that, normally, they do feel way more comfortable and we can communicate whether it's through Slack or through email. They know everything that's happening and nothing's gonna be done without them, them knowing.
[00:20:53] Making sure that communication is open is going to be the first thing that I do. And that is naturally what sets up boundaries. I also let them know I have three kids. Of course I'm gonna pour everything that I can into your business, into my business, into my kids. But there's work time. Just like for you. You have work time, you have family time, you have personal time. That's gonna be the biggest thing for boundaries, is first having that communication.
[00:21:20] For a delegation, I'm not going to force anything out of their hands, but I also have to let them know that this is a partnership. Anyone that you hire, you have to make sure that you work as a team. The effort that you're putting into it is going to come back to you. So if you really don't want to let go of something, then I can't help you with that. That's okay, but I do let them know, 'okay, if you're holding onto that piece, this is a piece of your strategy that is maybe going to hold up reaching more people or growing your audience or whatever it might be.'
[00:21:52] Samantha: I think that's important to know. At first, you are obviously gonna have to be a little bit more hands-on and give feedback, and then figure out like what do you wanna hand off? And I think that goes back to figuring out who you wanna hire. What do you wanna hand off? Find somebody that's gonna take that on. You don't wanna hire somebody and then not use them to the fullest extent of their abilities.
[00:22:12] And then I love what you said about boundaries. I think the biggest one is always communication and time expectations. When are you gonna respond? How fast is this gonna happen? And it's helpful for everybody to know what that looks like because we all have lives and we're running businesses and we've got everything else that's going on. If we can just get that laid out and then continually update and communicate if things are shifting and changing.
[00:22:37] And it is a little bit different, if somebody has had someone in office doing some of these things where they can just like pop over and ask them a question and have it done, when you're working with somebody virtually who's running their own business, that is going to be slightly different. They're not available for immediate feedback. They're not your employee that can pick up whatever tasks you hand them when you do. They've got their own schedule and their own process.
[00:23:03] Deanna Martin: Yeah, no, for sure. I use Asana for my project management, so I do the best I can with sending these little reminders out and emails out, but things happen all the time. Just having that flexibility is going to take a lot of the stress out too.
[00:23:16] You really have to trust your team, trust yourself, and as long as you have a plan in the long run, everything's going to be fine.
Quick Wins to Get Started with Outsourcing Your Marketing
[00:23:24] Samantha: So what is a quick win or something that our listeners can do today or this week to make their marketing feel less chaotic, whether they have somebody to outsource to yet or not?
[00:23:38] Deanna Martin: Okay, so one I would definitely put together what are the weekly things that I do that I wanna get off my hands, and what are the monthly things I do that I wanna get off my hands? So if you're looking for a VA, that's what I would do right now. Does not have to be fancy, literally throw it into Google Doc and just put it all in there.
[00:23:55] If you're looking for a social media manager, I would make sure that you know your patients, your clients, your target audience very well. Is it my job to do some research? Of course, but I'm going to ask my client : why do people come to you? So making sure that you know why people come to you, why they keep coming to you, why are people referring you? What do you do that is different? Making a Google Doc of that, and that's going to help your social media manager a lot.
[00:24:26] If it's a strategist that you're looking for, just saying, okay, these are the things that I've tried and just kind of brain dump: what have I struggled with? Have you just struggled with even posting? Knowing what to say? Have you struggled with, okay, I sold this service and no one bought? Did you know how? Had you ever done that before there? Map out all the problems that you've had, and if it's something like consistency, okay, then that gives you an idea that maybe a VA could help you with that, right? They could easily get those emails out for you or something like that. If it's something like, I've never even started an email list 'cause I don't know where to start. Then an email marketer could probably help you with that.
[00:25:05] Putting down what are your biggest struggles or what do you wanna hand off, and really knowing who it is that you want to work with and why they are coming to you, because anyone that you hire is going to need a piece of that information anyways.
[00:25:20] Samantha: Yeah, I love that advice. I've heard that from so many people, especially now as things are changing. You have to know what makes you different, why people should choose you over the practice three doors down. That is what's gonna make your marketing successful. That's what's gonna make everything else successful because you are really grounded in that.
[00:25:41] And a lot of it you get from working with people and figuring out who you like and what they're saying. So I think it's really important for everybody to just take time and figure out what makes me different? What makes me stand out? Why should people choose me over somebody else? And then you can communicate that to whoever you're working with and use that in all of the strategy that you're doing because that is what people are looking for now when they make decisions.
[00:26:06] Deanna Martin: Definitely. That's gonna be the jumping off point for anything. So even onboarding, it's not gonna cut your onboarding from from four weeks to one week, but it's gonna cut it if there's less research that has to be done on that end. I think that would be the biggest piece that's going to be most helpful.
[00:26:19] Something else that I would probably do is if you don't know what to post, I would say, send an email if you haven't sent an email to your audience yet. Even just a quick, 'Hey, it's been a while. I wanna let you know what's been happening. Here are some things that have been happening in the practice, in the business, what's happening at the end of the year.' Just send a really genuine recap, follow up email.
[00:26:42] Or even go into Instagram stories and just again, share, 'here's what's been happening and things have been crazy. I'm still seeing patients, still seeing clients.' Just doing something like that. You get in front of people, you did a piece of your marketing, doesn't take a whole ton of brain power strategy to do it, and it's genuine.
[00:26:58] That's the biggest thing: people don't want to work with stoic provider. Especially depending on the niche that you're in, it could be a really sensitive topic and they wanna make sure that they're working with someone that feels comfortable. So send the genuine email. Don't make it fancy schmancy. If you're in Instagram stories, if you're hot mess express, be hot mess express, and just check in with them.
Connect with Deanna Martin
[00:27:20] Samantha: Awesome. So where can people connect with you and learn more about what you do and see all of the good stuff that you have?
[00:27:28] Deanna Martin: Yeah, so I'm on Instagram, so it's @patronvs. And my website is Patrona Virtual Solutions. You could see what I do there. You can see a bit of my work and if you want to work with me, get on a call and just brainstorm things that you need help with, there's a form on there or you can send me a DM.
[00:27:48] Samantha: Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on and walking us through this and helping people plan what their next steps are to outsource their marketing and their business growth.
[00:27:57] Deanna Martin: Thank you so much.
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